
FMC Lagos employing retired specialists, says CMD
The Chief Medical Director of Federal Medical Centre, Ebute Metta, Lagos, Dr Adedamola Dada, in this interview with Sodiq Ojuroungbe, explains measures being taken by the hospital to retain health workers and how health insurance can reduce quackery.
Brain drain (japa) is a very big issue. How is the Japa syndrome affecting your facility and services to patients?
For us, we are expanding our services. And you can go round to see that we are expanding our services. And that is because once there is a problem, we don’t believe that we should fold our hands and let the problem overwhelm us. Rather, what do we do? We try to think through the problem and find a solution. One of the solutions that we have found is that in this city of Lagos, we have a lot of people who have the required skills, who are still strong, and who are retired; retired specialist consultants, retired nurses, and all the rest of them. So what we have done is to actively encourage these retired people out of retirement.
And then the second thing, as I said, is to create an enabling environment, a good environment, so that even those who are staying will prefer to stay with us. And that is what has been happening.
People are resigning. Some people are resigning. But I can tell you categorically that the impact has not been too severe on us. And that is not because people are not resigning, but it is because we have been able to design programmes and alternatives to ensure that we are in a position to replace some of these people who are resigning. Yes, it is a problem in the system, but we must not allow ourselves to be overwhelmed by problems.
In terms of numbers, like, how many of these retired nurses or doctors have you called back?
We’ve called back quite a number of them. If you are talking in terms of specialists alone, almost half of the specialists in my anaesthesia department, almost half of them are retired, and they are still strong, and they are still working. But you find out that in many other places, they probably have reduced the number of surgeries they are doing. But our own number, the number of surgeries we are doing, has not reduced. In fact, it has gone up. That is because we have been able to attract these specialists and experts who are still strong, who have retired to come back into practice, provide an enabling environment for them, and understand their need and their capacity.
This is happening in all departments. If you go to the gynaecology department, if you go to the surgical department, if you go to the paediatrics department, we have a lot of these retired specialists who are still very useful to the system, who are still very strong.
They are offering these services and they have nowhere to go because they are not going to Japa.
So, it also gives us a great deal of stability and capacity to plan ahead. So these are the challenges. We also recruit the new ones, but even if those ones go, we have a strong foundation formed by these people. These retired people are always there to offer the service and give us the leverage that we need to be able to attract newer hands to come and support them even if somebody resigns.
There’s no doubt that people are leaving. But what we have done is to create a hard core of those who will not leave.
The cost of IVF (In vitro fertilisation) treatment in Nigeria is expensive. How best do you think the government can come in to assist couples?
Like I said earlier, we are a hospital whose decisions are data-driven. One of the things that we found out from the data that is coming out is that we have a large load of patients who actually have these challenges (infertility). So, working on that, we have discovered that even if only 50 per cent of the patients that we have, who have these challenges, advanced to the level of seeking treatment via IVF, we will be able to hopefully crash the cost of IVF in the country by almost about 50 per cent. If we are able to do that, we are a government organisation; it, therefore, means that the government has been able to reduce the cost using the concept of economic volume
We have more volume. And because we have more volume and we are treating more patients, we’re going to be able to get the consumables and the inputs at a better rate than those who are doing it outside, and then we’ll be able to crash the cost.
IVF treatment is expensive and not really that accessible for average Nigerians. This is fuelling quacks and extortion of helpless couples desperately in need of children they can call their own. How best do you think some of these issues can be tackled by the government?
It is not just IVF care that quacks are getting into. Quacks are getting into very many spheres of healthcare delivery chains and services. If you are looking at Ophthalmology, quacks are getting into ophthalmology practice. Quacks are getting into orthopaedics practice. I’m sure you have heard of the traditional bone centres. Quacks are getting into delivery services, they’re getting into paediatrics. They’re getting everywhere.
One of the major things that we need to do which I know that the government is doing is to ensure that people have access to health care through the national health insurance scheme. I am sure you are aware that the national health insurance scheme has been made compulsory for all Nigerians. So, there is access. Once access is created and people don’t have to pay at the point of need, you just find out that fewer and fewer people would actually approach these untrained hands for their care because evidence abounds that usually what happens with this untrained hand is that they even complicate problems.
My own dissertation as an orthopaedic surgeon; when I was in my fellowship at the National Postgraduate Medical College, was on traditional bone centres and the complications that they cause in the healthcare system. And the result of that dissertation actually showed that a lot of havoc is caused by this group of people because they are not trained. Many of them cannot even recognise complications.
But once we create access, which this government is doing, then you find out that many more persons would approach the orthodox healthcare services and just naturally this other group would go down.
You have come up with a strategy to tackle the issue of brain drain in your hospital. How best do you think the government can actually handle the problem looking at the prediction that the country may lose 50 per cent of healthcare workers by 2025?
I have never believed in prophets of doom, and I have never premised my own strategy and plans on negativism. I always look at the positive side of things. I don’t believe that 50 per cent will leave in 2025. And in any case, we are producing. We are producing newer doctors and we know some of them are leaving.
See, it’s an international ecosystem. Medicine is an international profession. Nursing is an international profession. Pharmacy is an international provision. There is no country in the world where doctors do not exist. You go to the UK, and a lot of doctors are leaving the UK for Canada. A lot of doctors are leaving the UK for Australia. And because many doctors are leaving the United Kingdom for Canada and Australia, they are also coming to Africa to poach doctors and poach other healthcare workers.
You can’t compete with the salaries that have been paid in those places. Of course, improving the well-being of doctors nurses and healthcare workers is very important.
One of the things I have done is that every doctor that has resigned from this institution, I designed a questionnaire to ask them why they are leaving. And you find out that it’s not all of them who are leaving because of lack of money or inadequate remuneration. But some are also leaving because they are worried about the future of their children. Some of them are worried about what becomes of them after retirement. Some of them are worried about factors in the environment. All that we need to do is to actually improve those factors. Improve the remuneration, create an enabling environment, give hope and a good sense of security and all the rest of them.
It is not also the first time that this is happening. Don’t forget that in the 1980s, a lot of the Nigerian doctors actually left for the Middle East. And then after that, things stabilise when the economy improved.
If the economy of Nigeria improves, and we are very confident that the economy of Nigeria would improve, then a lot of these people who are leaving would be retained.
Don’t also forget that the grass is always greener on the other side. Today, if you ask a number of those who have left, and if you ask them if their finances have improved, they may say to you that the quality of life because of better road system, and better electricity has improved. But only a few of them will tell you that in terms of disposable income, they are a lot better because there are also strategic advantages here.
For one, we pay far less tax in this country compared to other countries. Also, despite the inflation that we’re all talking about, the cost of food and the cost of living in Nigeria comparatively is still a lot cheaper.
So, there’s a way these issues level out. And then part of the strategy that the government wants to do now is to produce more with the belief that when you produce more, some will leave, but more will be left.
For me, I don’t think there should be any need to panic. I think what we should just do is to improve our economy.
Courses such as medicine, nursing, pharmacy, physiotherapy, and laboratory sciences are international courses. They are wanted all over the world, and I don’t know of any country that has enough health workers to meet its set needs.
It doesn’t mean that people are not going, but what we just need to do is to sit down and find a way around it. People are resigning here in my own institution, but I have to sit down and look at my environment. What strategic advantage do I have? I make use of that strategic advantage to ensure that services and care of the patients who come here are not severely disrupted because people are leaving.
Anybody who wants to leave, I always shake their hands and wish them the best of luck. I’ve never held anybody back. But part of that also comes from the fact that, like I said, I have a hardcore foundation already in every department. When this problem started a couple of years ago, I knew that we needed to prepare for it.
You can argue that that is possible because we are in Lagos, where you have a lot of people. Yes, that’s a strategic advantage. So people should look inward and also look for strategic advantage that they can use to ensure that the problem does not overwhelm or negatively influence the system. Problems are meant to be solved by human beings.